Idiocy Is Not Determined by Gender
Heartless Bitches International is painfully aware of the fact that there ARE as many
moronic women out there as men (You should see some of the REALLY LAME applications for
membership!). In the interests of equality, I thought I'd share this little tidbit
of correspondence with you.... See? Stupidity is universal.
Part 1: Julie writes (less than eloquently) to express her dismay....
From: "Julie A Kauchak"
To: <nataliep@heartless-bitches.com>
Subject: who the hell?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 08:55:05 -0400
Who the hell wrote this page about self-abusive
relationship's. You obviously have never been in
a long standing relationship because there happen
to be hard times that people go through. Life is
not perfect. You shouldn't bash people for being in
a relationship. You should try one, they are kind of
nice. You sound like my frickin' sister who has been
in a relationship for 7 years now, says she will never
get married, never have kids. Sounds pretty lonely to
me. Try reading the book, "Women are from Mars, Men are
from Venus". It might give you a different perspective on
relationships. Isn't that what friends are for, to lend
an ear to listen. It doesn't mean they have to like it,
but sometimes it helps to have someone to talk to. I
think you need to lighten up.
- Julie A Kauchak
Part 2: Natalie Responds to the drivel...(and shows
that the point is on Julie's head)
From: nataliep@heartless-bitches.com
To: Julie A Kauchak
Subject: Re: who the hell?
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 1996 11:45 AM
>Who the hell wrote this page about self-abusive
>relationship's.
Which article are you talking about? The one about
self-abusive people who continually get themselves
in BAD relationships and then go looking for sympathy
from others?
>You obviously have never been in a long standing
>relationship because there happen to be hard times
>that people go through.
*laugh* You obviously haven't got a fucking clue.
>Life is not perfect. You shouldn't bash people for
>being in a relationship.
Learn to read. The article bashed people for
pathologically getting into BAD relationships, and
rewriting history after ending relationships. It did
not "bash people for being IN a relationship". Sounds
to me like you have a hot button there? A little
sensitive about people giving you trouble for the kind
of guys you go out with/marry?
>You should try one, they are kind of nice. You sound
>like my frickin' sister who has been in a relationship
>for 7 years now, says she will never get married, never
>have kids. Sounds pretty lonely to me.
She has been or hasn't been? From the tenor of your
statements, I would guess that you missed the word "not"....
Sounds like your sister has more brains than you do.
Some people are so needy they will put up with just
about -anything- just to have a "relationship". Other
people actually -like- themselves, and are more discerning
about who they are willing to make an emotional investment
with. Just because a person isn't in a "relationship"
doesn't mean they are lonely. At least she knows what she
wants and is sticking to her principles. She has no
requirement to live up to YOUR expectations.
Why should she get married? What assurances does that
piece of paper give her that the other person will not
fuck around, will treat her with respect, will share and
work equally in the household? None. Look at the divorce
rate. All that piece of paper does is set people up to
take each other for granted. It's a false sense of
security, honey.
>Try reading the book, "Women are from Mars, Men are
>from Venus". It might give you a different perspective
>on relationships.
I have. It's revoltingly stereotyped and inflammatory.
(not to mention that she got the title wrong...)
I have plenty of perspective on relationships, and plenty of
self-respect. Which is why I'd rather be on my own than
living with some DORK who treats me like shit 50% of the
time - just so I can be "in a relationship". I'd rather be
lonely than miserable. I'll bet your sister would agree.
The fact is, there ARE decent guys out there. I know. I
have 2 wonderful boyfriends. But that's because I care
enough about myself, NOT to settle for some loser just to
stave off loneliness. A person who is sitting around lonely
is either too self-centered, or too lazy.
> Isn't that what friends are for, to lend an ear to listen.
>It doesn't mean they have to like it, but sometimes it helps
>to have someone to talk to.
So? What has that got to do with putting up with people who
continually drag you down, and continually fuck themselves up
with stupidity? People like that need a psychiatrist. In fact,
listening to them and giving them sympathy, does more harm than
good, because they take no responsibility for getting their
shit together so long as some fool is willing to give them
attention for it. And if you've ever dealt with people like
that, you'll notice that they only hang around when they are
feeling bad and need a shoulder. When they are feeling up - they
don't call for weeks.
Maybe -you- need that kind of "friend". -I- certainly don't.
>I think you need to lighten up.
I think you are the judgemental pot calling the kettle black.
Look in the mirror.
heartlessly,
-Natalie
Part 3: Julie attempts a snappy retort.... But dull knives
don't cut very well, do they?
From: "Julie A Kauchak"
To: <nataliep@heartless-bitches.com>
Subject: Re: who the hell?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:48:38 -0400
----------
[she quoted the entire message here, but I won't bore
you with it]
WOW NATALIE! YOU REALLY ARE A BITCH!
Anyway, in my opinion, I agree with a lot of the
statements you made. Oh, two boyfriends, huh. Can't
make up your mind? Don't know what you want? Or maybe
you like being a slut?
As a matter of fact, I am in a great relationship. Not
that it is any of your fuckin' business.
You must have had a guy really fuck you over from the
way you are talking.
Well, haven't we all? Life goes on though, doesn't it?
Part 4: Natalie takes up the slack....
To: "Julie A Kauchak"
From: nataliep@heartless-bitches.com
Subject: Re: who the hell?
>WOW NATALIE! YOU REALLY ARE A BITCH!
Julie answers the clue phone...
>Anyway, in my opinion, I agree with a lot of the
>statements you made. Oh, two boyfriends, huh. Can't
>make up your mind? Don't know what you want? Or maybe
>you like being a slut?
Why does the concept of more than one lover make a
person a "slut"? You certainly hold some awfully sexist
and narrow-minded attitudes, but then, given your antiquated
belief that a woman isn't -whole- unless she gets married
and has kids, well... your ignorance is not surprising...
I guess it just means that I am capable of loving more
than one person at a time. I hope you never have more than
one child, given your limited ability to care for people...
>As a matter of fact, I am in a great relationship. Not
>that it is any of your fuckin' business.
I really couldn't care less whether you are currently fucking
the dutch national basketball team, or playing solo with your
shower massage.
>You must have had a guy really fuck you over from the
>way you are talking.
Y'know, every idiot who tries to flame me falls back on that
lame old rationalization. I guess you, (along with the rest
of the weak-minded), just can't cope with the idea that a woman
can be strong-willed, independent, free-thinking and assertive,
without having been fucked-over by someone. That kind of
parochial bigotry would be funny, if it weren't so pathetic.
heartlessly unmoved,
-Natalie
Part 5: Julie Gets -Mad-, and changes her moniker in a feeble
attempt to be more intimidating....(oooh!)
From: "Julie A Kauchak"
To: <nataliep@heartless-bitches.com>
Subject: bite me
I hope this is a good show you put on, this tuff, little
bitch act. If in fact you act this way everyday and all
the time, I would think you wouldn't have any friends.
Give a shit! I think your comments are ludicrous and you
have a shitty attitude towards life and if I met you in
person I would kick your fuckin' ass.
Bite me, bitch. I don't know how any male gender could put
up with your ignorant attitude. Don't fuck with me.
Go fuck yourself,
Jules
Part 6: Natalie Stops laughing long enough to pen a response....
From: <nataliep@heartless-bitches.com>
To: Julie A Kauchak
Subject: Re: bite me
On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Julie A Kauchak wrote:
>I hope this is a good show you put on, this tuff, little
>bitch act. If in fact you act this way everyday and all
>the time, I would think you wouldn't have any friends.
Haven't you learned any new insults since high school?
Yeesh! Your rhetoric is woefully imbecillic.
>Give a shit! I think your comments are ludicrous and you
>have a shitty attitude towards life and if I met you in
>person I would kick your fuckin' ass.
Ah yes. Threats of violence. The last bastion of the
intellectually challenged.
> Bite me, bitch.
Oooh. Tres originale.
>I don't know how any male gender could put up with your
>ignorant attitude.
Have no fear. I'm quite happy that the kind of men who would
find you attractive would NOT be interested in me....
>Don't fuck with me.
Ick. Who'd want to? (perhaps guys who like their women
vacuous?)
Do us all favor: Don't breed.
heartlessly bored,
-Natalie
Of course, as a result of this little piece of correspondence, "jules" will
undoubtably get email from equally moronic males - writing ostensibly to
be "supportive", when they are really just trying to get into her pants...
Additional comments from Holden Shearer:
"Men would not try to get into her pants. Some(one? thing?) who fits THAT
easily and happily into her gender-biased societal niche would only wear
a dress. Probably with little pink flowers."
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